Where are the fire plans for Little Grand Rapids and Pauingassi which the Minister promised on May 23rd?
On May 23rd, the Minister of Infrastructure said he would have for me the fire plans for Little Grand Rapids and Pauingassi communities. He has not provided the fire plans, or even a letter with information about the fire plans. I asked the Minister why he has not provided the fire plans when they should have been readily available to coordinate activities among all emergency personnel. My questions and the Minister's response is below.
Little Grand Rapids and Pauingassi - Request to Table Fire Plan
Hon. Jon Gerrard (River
Heights): Madam Speaker, on May the 23rd, I asked
the minister for the fire plans for the communities of Pauingassi and Little
Grand Rapids. The minister replied, and I quote: I would like to suggest to all
members of the Legislature that there are fire plans in place. And if the
member would like to have access to those, perhaps not today or tomorrow, but
we can get those for him. End of quote. That was almost two weeks ago.
I'd like to ask the minister why he has
still not provided the fire plans and whether he'll table the fire plans for
these communities today, or doesn't he even have the fire plans?
Hon. Ron Schuler (Minister of Infrastructure): Well, Madam Speaker, I explained this to the member for River
Heights on Thursday, and I am more than willing to explain it to all members of
the Legislature. Both of those communities that he mentioned are federal
jurisdiction. There are fire plans. We do have access to them as emergency
measures.
I indicated to the member also we'll be
sending him a letter where he should go to in the federal government to ask for
copies of them. Madam Speaker, we, as a Province, are not allowed to hand those
out on behalf of those communities and the federal government. I told him all
of that on Thursday.
Madam Speaker: The
honourable member for River Heights, on a supplementary question.
Mr. Gerrard: Madam
Speaker, when we're dealing with a forest fire approaching, a community like
Little Grand or Pauingassi, it's important to have good fire plans in place and
that those who are dealing with the emergency, whether at a provincial or a
federal level, have quick access to those plans to make sure the effort is well
co-ordinated and following the approach of the fire plan.
I ask the minister today whether he has
actually seen those fire plans and whether he is using them in implementation
of the strategy to address the fire and to help the communities in Pauingassi
and Little Grand.
Mr. Schuler: Will, Madam
Speaker, as a former minister of the Crown, the member would know that these
exist. He was a federal minister of the Crown; he should know that these plans
exist.
I would also like to point out to him that
both Little Grand Rapids and Pauingassi were both evacuated. And I would
suspect, Madam Speaker, that the federal government and those two communities
were probably more focused on ensuring that their residents got out to safety
and not quite as focused on the member's need to see the emergency plans.
Madam Speaker, I will get him a letter. I
will point out to him where he should go within the federal government to
access those plans.
Madam Speaker: The
honourable member for River Heights, on a final supplementary.
Little Grand Rapids Evacuees - Return to Community Plan
Hon. Jon Gerrard (River
Heights): Madam Speaker, I hear from the chief and
council at Little Grand Rapids that the evacuees from their community are being
approached by drug dealers who want to give them meth. I had asked the
ministers for assurances that this wouldn't happen, on May 23rd, but now we
know that it is happening.
The chief and council believe there's an
urgency to return people to their community as soon as possible before the
community has to deal with a meth epidemic.
Can the minister tell us today what
actions he's taking to enable people to return to their community as soon as
possible, and can he share those plans? Thank you.
Hon. Ron Schuler (Minister of Infrastructure): Well, Madam Speaker, I would caution the member for River Heights
to choose his words 'carefinly.' He's disparagingly spoken about Little Grand
Rapids and Pauingassi and the fact that they may or may not have emergency
plans and that they haven't come forward with them, and now he's taking a run
at law enforcement.
Madam Speaker, federal government, through
the Red Cross, with the leadership of Little Grand Rapids and Pauingassi, have
done an outstanding job protecting their citizens, and I would suggest to the
member opposite that he just wait, let's get the situation cleared up. Manitoba
Hydro is up north right now, assessing the situation. They will come back with
a report.
Everybody is working flat out. Maybe the
member opposite should cut them some slack and wait 'til the event is over
before he second-guesses people.
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